On August 27, 2015, I was 5 1/2 weeks pregnant when I started having painful cramps. I called my doctor and within hours I was in their office having an ultrasound. “It appears to be a burst cyst. Your baby is fine. You may have some bleeding, but that’s normal.” The ultrasound technician told me.
Everything was and continued to be fine throughout the whole pregnancy. I delivered a healthy baby boy right on time, 8 months later.
Fast forward to February 10, 2020. My husband and I had desired to have another child for almost three long years but circumstances prevented us from trying. I was finally 5 weeks and 2 days pregnant with what we planned as our second and last child. I started experiencing some light cramps and bleeding. I called my doctor, but they couldn’t see me. (They are no longer by OBGYN now btw) My husband began calling around to every OBGYN in the area until he found one that could see me that day. A few hours later I was in their office, getting an all-too-familiar ultrasound. I was so excited I would get to see my baby early on an ultrasound, with the least concern anything could be wrong. But something was very wrong.
Let me start by saying that this message is not for everyone. Some may get on board with what I’m saying, and some may not. That’s ok. I’m not trying to push my beliefs on anyone. They are just sitting here in cyber space hoping you allow yourself to be open to the possibility that you can receive forgiveness, healing, and your miscarriage can be redeemed. Sympathy-seekers that desire to remain a victim instead of changing into a victorious warrior won't receive this. If you want to be a victorious warrior and have a healthy pregnancy and baby, then read on...
Don’t blame yourself. Most miscarriages occur for reasons you have no control over. It’s often difficult to pinpoint the exact cause. Adding self-blame isn’t going to help how you feel, or prevent you from having a miscarriage in the future, so just don’t go there.
Rest in the fact that you are not alone. A miscarriage is defined as a spontaneous loss of pregnancy before the 20th week. Most miscarriages occur before the 12th week. As many as one in three pregnancies end in miscarriage. While some women may not even be aware they miscarry since they can miscarry before their next expected period, if you ask around in your circle of women, many would admit to having experienced one. For me, it helped to talk with my friend, that I learned had experienced a miscarriage, too. We shared how we felt, both admitted to self-blame, she corrected my misconceptions, and encouraged me.
Don’t throw a pitty party In the words of one of my all-time favorite motivational speakers, Pastor Perry Noble, “It’s ok to not be okay, but it’s not okay to stay that way.” Psalm 30 says, “weeping may endure for a night, but joy comes in the morning. I cried to You, O Lord, and to the Lord I made supplication: What profit is there in my death, if I go down to the pit? Will the dust give You thanks? Will it declare Your truth? Hear, O Lord, and be gracious to me; Lord, be my helper. For you have turned my mourning into dancing.” Many times men don’t understand the trauma of a miscarriage the way a woman experiences it. To a woman, that baby was real and alive from conception. It was growing inside of her. But often times to a man, it’s not a reality yet. While grieving is normal, be careful not to idolize your baby’s death. Don’t fall into a pit of despair. Once you get in that pit, it can be so hard to get out. Catch yourself before it’s too late. Reach out to friends, family, and counselors. Get some help in your grief. Don’t let it overtake you.
Acknowledge that it can happen again, but also that it doesn’t have to. You don’t find “miscarriage” or “abortion” in the Bible. It never was or will never be the will of God for you to lose your baby. God wants you and your baby healthy, whole, and prosperous physically, spiritually, mentally, and financially. From the moment of conception, gender, hair color, eye color, and other attributes are immediately determined. Even though it was small and only alive for a short time, it was known and loved by God. God doesn’t just see “fetuses.” He saw the men and women they would become. He has a destiny and purpose for each and every life. (Jeremiah 1:5, Isaiah 44:2, Psalm 139:13, Galatians 1:5) Unfortunately life happens, and things don’t always go as planned. The enemy seeks to kill, steal, and destroy. (John 10:10) And if we don’t stand our scriptural ground, he’ll take every opportunity to do so, again and again. Jesus came so we could have life, and have it abundantly. You can’t believe the word of God and believe it’s God's will to take a life prematurely. It’s his will for everyone to live a long life. (Psalm 91:16, Deuteronomy 5:33, Exodus 23:25-26, Proverbs 10:27) Medical science can be helpful in diagnosing problems, weighing consequences, and sometimes even providing solutions. However, consider that they are not the final authority. God says we can have children without the help of medication, surgery, or adoption. (Not that any of those choices are bad. They are the answer for a lot of people and that’s great!) God will meet you at your level of faith- whatever that level is. And you can have a healthy pregnancy and baby. Psalm 113:9 says, “He maketh the barren woman to keep house, and to be a joyful mother of children.” When you conceive again, if fears of miscarriage enter your thoughts, stop them immediately. Choose not to meditate on negativity. This was a challenge for me, but I overcame it, and you can too.
Decide that you want a full-term healthy pregnancy and baby and believe for that. The mind-body connection is so powerful. There is so much science (as well as scripture) on it and also how thoughts and words impact our bodies in a positive or negative way. God designed our bodies this way on purpose with a purpose and he tells us in his Word to fix our thoughts on things that are lovely, excellent, and of good report (Philippians 4:8), commands us not to worry (2 Timothy 1:7, Isaiah 41:10, Joshua 1:8) and to speak out loud what we want, believing for it. (Mark 11:22-23, Romans 4:17, Matthew 21:21-22) For the best brain-science book ever written, pick up Dr. Caroline Leaf’s book, Who Switched Off My Brain. You can get it on amazon by clicking here Speak life over your body and future child. Believe for, and accept nothing less than God’s best. Get "death" words out of your mouth and replace them with words of life. Call those things which are not as though they are! (Romans 4:17) For some words of affirmation you can start using today, click here: Speak Life
That day in the doctor’s office, they didn’t see any sign of a life on the ultrasound. They took my blood that Monday, and again on Thursday to see if my hCG levels, the hormone produced by the placenta after implantation, had risen or fallen. The number was supposed to double every day. The number had fallen. “I had a miscarriage,” was three words I couldn’t come to terms with admitting.
People often fight for the right to suffer. The Word says you can do things God’s way or you can choose to do them your own way. You can be sick, or barren, or live in pain, and God will still love you. Every woman in the Bible that was once defined as barren eventually conceived and had a child or children. I encourage you to read the book, Supernatural Childbirth by Jackie Mize, (click here to order on Amazon) study the scriptures, and decide what you choose to accept for yourself. God will meet you where you are. But why not choose to live life abundantly and take all God has for you?
For more inspiration and encouragement, you can read my supernatural childbirth story here: Read here
"However, consider that they are not the final authority. God says we can have children without the help of medication, surgery, or adoption. (Not that any of those choices are bad. They are the answer for a lot of people and that’s great!) God will meet you at your level of faith- whatever that level is. And you can have a healthy pregnancy and baby. Psalm 113:9 says, “He maketh the barren woman to keep house, and to be a joyful mother of children.” When you conceive again, if fears of miscarriage enter your thoughts, stop them immediately. Choose not to meditate on negativity. This was a challenge for me, but I overcame it, and you can too." So you mean to tell me that as long as I have enough faith and basically will my pregnancy into existence that it will just magically happen? That God uses miscarriage as a punishment for not having enough faith??? How dare you encourage any woman that if she just has enough faith and believe she wont have a miscarriage! You have basically shamed every woman reading this and on a personal level that their miscarriage was their fault. And if they were to be just like you and have YOUR train of thought then they will have a happy healthy baby?! And who the hell are you to judge someone for how they handle a miscarriage and tell them how they should feel about it?! You are a damn narcissist thinking you have made this remarkable breakthrough on how women can have healthy pregnancies. Shame on you.
ReplyDeleteSo you mean to tell me that as long as I have enough faith and basically will my pregnancy into existence that it will just magically happen? That God uses miscarriage as a punishment for not having enough faith??? How dare you encourage any woman that if she just has enough faith and believe she wont have a miscarriage! You have basically shamed every woman reading this and on a personal level that their miscarriage was their fault. And if they were to be just like you and have YOUR train of thought then they will have a happy healthy baby?! And who the hell are you to judge someone for how they handle a miscarriage and tell them how they should feel about it?! You are a damn narcissist thinking you have made this remarkable breakthrough on how women can have healthy pregnancies. Shame on you.
ReplyDeleteI never said God uses a miscarriage as a punishment, and that statement couldn’t be further from the truth. I do believe if someone has enough faith that they will conceive and have a healthy pregnancy and baby. The Bible clearly states that He makes the barren woman have children. I never said a woman won’t have a miscarriage. I had a miscarriage! If you read my post, it clearly states that number 1, ITS NOT YOUR FAULT. I don’t claim to be an expert on everyone else’s situations, but I do believe if someone were to follow what I suggested, have faith, speak life, stop negative thoughts, then yes, they will have a healthy pregnancy and baby. I believe the word of God. If someone else doesn’t, then obviously this won’t work for them at all! I don’t judge how others handle their miscarriages. They can choose to feel however they want to feel. They can remain a victim and convinced they have horrible pregnancies and are doomed, it doesn’t effect my life at all. However, I do care about people and want the best for others. I would love to see every woman be able to have as many children as she wants and never have any problems! That’s why I wrote this. TO HELP PEOPLE. Too bad for you that you don’t see it that way. It seems to me you are looking for an excuse to be in pain and suffering or this would encourage you. This post is not out to attack women, it’s to encourage them and hopefully help get them to their goal as a mother. You obviously don’t believe the word of God or you wouldn’t be arguing with me, so really, what is your point? We have different morals, values, and standards. I am not trying to push mine on anyone. Just leaving mine out here in cyber space for anyone that is willing to get on board. Thanks for your feedback! Glad I could straighten out your concerns.
Delete" I do believe if someone were to follow what I suggested, have faith, speak life, stop negative thoughts, then yes, they will have a healthy pregnancy and baby."
DeleteSeriously?? Do you have any idea how many God-fearing, Bible-believing people have experienced both miscarriages and infertility? Your interpretation of scripture is a very narrow view and totally denies what we know from science. Does the Bible not also say that that the rain falls both on the righteous and the unrighteous? What about the COUNTLESS stories in the Bible about godly people who experience loss? What makes you more believing or better than them? Some day, because you are a human being on planet Earth, you will experience great loss and no amount of faith will prevent it from happening. If you hold on to your current misguided beliefs, your faith will be shaken to its very core. It would be wise to pray for wisdom and discernment.
I know a TON of God-fearing, Bible-believing people have experienced miscarriages, infertility, and loss. I have experienced a miscarriage and loss. That doesn't change my stance. I believe the Word of God is true. I believe in miracles. I believe faith can move mountains. We live in a fallen world. NONE of us is perfect. I haven't reached perfection, and I never will. But I have experienced miracles of my own and I have seen it happen in other people. What makes me more believing? FAITH. Anyone can have it. If you don't have it, then you won't see or experience the kind of level-up stuff I'm talking about.
DeleteDo not dare question my morals, beliefs values or faith in God. I'm in no way looking to live in pain or suffering, in fact quite the opposite. I have a fantastic life that I have been blessed with by God and how dare you speak on His behalf as to why women are barren. My point is this- you are putting it out there to women on "cyberspace" that you have 5 ways to not have a miscarriage and I'm so happy you figured this out, let's share it to doctors, barren women and women who are of fantastic faith that you have the answers! Praise be to you!
ReplyDeleteI'm not questioning your morals, beliefs, or values. I apologize for assuming based on your negativity about my God-inspired post that you weren't a believer. I'm not speaking on behalf of God why some women are barren. But I do know what the word says about it. As a woman of faith yourself, wouldn't you agree with what Scripture says about it? I believe you misread my blog and encourage you to re-read it. This is not a blog about "5 ways to not have a miscarriage." It's 5 THINGS TO DO (OR NOT DO) WHEN YOU EXPERIENCE A MISCARRIAGE. Let's do share it with everyone! Pass the word along, my friend!
DeleteJust curious...do you have a medical degree? If not, Shut up! As a women who has powered through 2 miscarriages, tens of thousands of dollars spent on ivf, and countless daily injections I can assure you my inability to conceive and carry a baby through to delivery is not because I don’t have faith or believe in God. I have shed gallons and gallons of tears and cried and prayed and cried and prayed again. My infertility is because I have a medical condition. It’s because my husband has a low sperm count. Those are the reasons. It is not because I don’t have faith or believe in God. How dare you even suggest that.
ReplyDeleteJust curious... do you have a opinion? Well, by all means, voice it! That is what I am here doing, too. God put it on my heart to not be silent about what I believe in. I want to help people! I know I come off overbearing and very controversial, but I have a heart of gold. I know my message is not for everyone. But I really don't mean to offend anyone. Girl, all the love and power to you! I can't imagine what it must be like to be in your situation. I know people that love God and pray continue to have problems. I love God and pray and still have problems! I am working it out, too, just like everyone else. It is terrible that we live in a fallen world and that there is a thief that comes to kill, steal, and destroy. I am so sorry about the loss and the struggle that you have been through. But I have good news for you. God wants you to have a healthy pregnancy and baby! I imagine that in your situation that the light at the end of the tunnel must look very dim. Be encouraged! Medical reasons are very real reasons to not be able to conceive. But I do know people that have been healed from medical issues and been able to conceive! I strongly encourage you to pick up Jackie Mize's book, Supernatural Childbirth. I am happy to mail you a copy if you want to text me your address. 803-743-7880 I hope that you and your husband are able to have as many children as you want, whatever way is possible for y'all!
DeleteI was laying in bed the other night thinking about you. I feel like Holy Spirit pointed out something that I think is crucial that I share. You mentioned that you shed gallons and gallons of tears, cried and prayed, cried and prayed. What were you feeling as you were crying? And as you were praying? That reaction is demonstrating pain, fear, and doubt. It’s not demonstrating that you have FAITH. FAITH is what moves mountains. You can have all the love and good intentions in the world but it won’t change things according to the Bible. Don’t get mad at me though for stating this fact. It’s God’s word. And now that you can clearly see the truth, you can do something about it if you choose to. Build your faith. Please, please, please read that book I suggested. It’s packed with testimonies in the back. Stories of women in similar and worse situations medically. With real, true, examples of how they worked it out. I am truly sorry that you have had such a difficult journey so far with getting and maintaining pregnancy and I sincerely hope you can experience a miracle.
DeleteWhere in the bible does it say that if you believe hard enough you will carry a full term baby? Where does it say if you have enough faith you will recieve what you want? Oh wait it doesn't.
ReplyDeleteIf you read my blog post in detail, you would have noticed I referenced scriptures at the end of each of my points. A relationship with God is each individual’s journey. It is not my place to try to make anyone believe. If you desire to do some discovery of your own about what God’s will is and what he says, here are some great starting points.
DeleteWhat God’s will is for women and childbirth: Psalm 113:9, Exodus 23:25,26, Psalm 128:3, Psalm127:3-5, Deuteronomy 7:13-14, Mark 10:27, and just in case you are wondering if his promises he made back then are for present day: Hebrews 13:8, Malachi 3:6
Faith, if you believe you will receive: Mark 11:22-23, Matthew 21:21-22, Hebrews 11:1, Hebrews 11:6, Romans 4:20-21, Revelation 12:11, Proverbs 4:20-22
Faith in God is not like making some magical wishes like he’s a genie or something. God wants us to strive to be like him. He sent his son, Jesus, to be an example of how to live. As we align our thoughts and desires with His thoughts and desires, our faith grows, and as we pray and believe for things, these things that we will likely pray for will be in line with God’s will and nature. So you can’t like wish for a million dollars for your own selfish desires or for fame or some rich and famous guy to fall for you. You can, but those things wouldn’t be prayed for by a spirit-filled, God worshipping, Jesus following person. And <—- that is the kind of person that has real FAITH.
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ReplyDeleteI read your take that it's not God's will to miscarry. So, the way I read your take was, after God connects conception, he looks the other way. Making it a complete lotto win whether you have that healthy pregnancy or you have a natural miscarriage. Then, if that is how we positively see our loss, then how dare anyone judge or persecute under God's law their right to NOT have their baby. Since its a roll the dice routine anyway. I dunno. You're right, it's your opinion, and I almost can agree with you, but take the faith out, and just leave the science. Then what you're suggesting makes perfect since.
God never looks the other way. If you remember, I referenced some scriptures on how God sees the men and women we would become. It’s his will for every seed to be carried out to a full and long life. Period. However, the Word of God says that there is a thief that comes to kill, steal, and destroy. This is the devil. He once was an angel in Heaven and now he is the ruler on earth. God permits him to do his thang, but gives us (those who believe in Jesus) his authority to take that devil out. We do this through faith, speaking, and believing. For lack of time, I am not going to reference all the scriptures that prove this, but this is all in the Bible. It is an unfortunate fact that there is a powerful force out there that is wreaking havoc on the world, but hey, it makes things interesting, right? Could you imagine a world where we all just went about happy, successful, without pain, disease, loss, or problem? I can. It’s called Heaven. One day some of us will get there. Until then, it’s our duty to spread the gospel and use are armor (Eph. 6) to destroy the devourer while living our best life the best way we know how.
DeleteThough not about "miscarriage" specifically I would like to remind you of the story of Job for a comparison. Job was the most faithful person to the Lord. The Lord allowed the devil to impact and test Job to prove his faith to the Lord was unmoving. I read your post and I am a bit concerned with what you are saying. Through this post, you repeated that if we have enough faith we will have a full term pregnancy. But that is far from the truth and pulling verses out of context does not help you to prove this point. With that logic, if we have enough faith, nothing horrible will ever happen to us and we will live in a world without pain. We are not currently living in a post Revelations society. There is pain and suffering and lessons taught through that pain and suffering that are not always a result of our poor choices or lack of faith. I was abused as a young girl by a boy I thought was my friend repeatedly. It caused much pain and grief to be thrown into my life. However, I did not ask for that. Quite the opposite actually, I would pray each day that it wouldn't happen again and that I would be safe. It eventually stopped by fear was a natural response to what happened. I kept my faith though. Over the years I have learned that what happened was not my fault but it helped mold me into the strong woman that God wanted me to become. Your logic states that if we have faith, science and our bodies will be overcome and the result will be what we want. However, God does not always provide us with what we want or allow us to live in a world of bliss. He allows situations to happen to us to mold us into the person he wants us to be. I beg you to please rethink what you are saying to all of these woman who have been through the hardship of miscarriage. Because your post is saying that we must not be faithful enough for God to allow us to bring a baby to full term and that our faith in our desires outweighs his plan and science (which He has helped to determine causes as well as treatments for these things). God is not cruel but everything he allows to happen, happens for his plan so that we can become the Christians and fishers of men that he desires us to be.
ReplyDeleteDo you really believe the word of God? Do you pick and choose what verses work for your life and throw the rest out? I didn’t write the Bible, so you can’t blame me if you don’t like it or believe what it says. When you read Psalm 113:9, do you read it like this? “He maketh the barren woman to keep house, and to be a joyful mother of children, unless it’s my will for her to stay barren. It’s a case-by-case basis.” No, God is no respecter of persons. Mark 9:23 says, “Jesus said, ‘If you can believe, all things are possible to him who believes.’” Do you think that means something other than what it says? I take God at his word. Jesse Duplantis says this about that scripture, “Let the simplicity of this revolutionary statement from Jesus Christ sink deep into your mind. It has the power to set you free because you will start to see that it gives you back your power - because our belief is tied to the spirit realm and changes things if we use its power.” I can’t force you (or anyone else) to believe the Word of God. You can choose to take God at his word, for all that it is, or you can come up with excuses why it won’t work for you. I send my deepest love for you concerning what you experienced. The devil is real and his destruction is painful. Thankfully we have a Father in heaven that loves us so much that he redeems, heals, and makes things new. You are a perfect testament to God’s mercy and redemption. I hope you see that there is more than just the surface of the Bible. You can have what Jesus promises. You just have to actually believe it can be true for you.
DeleteFYI, this kind of talk, pushes people away from God. Because realistically, the Bible also teaches that you don't get everything you want because you want it. And there absolutely are women who will never give birth to a baby. (A woman with no uterus because she lost it to cancer will in no way, ever grow a baby in emptiness.) The amount of faith you have won't change that. But you're trying to proclaim that if you just have enough faith it can happen. How does that encourage anyone? It doesn't. It just creates resentment. I know, because believers telling my MIL that her brother died because it was God's will literally pushed her from faith and resulted in her raising both her children as atheists. Your actions have consequences. These actions will absolutely push people from faith.
ReplyDeleteThey're also extremely ignorant. Yes, at some point people need to move on, but they'll do it in their own time. Not the timing you think is appropriate. And until they're ready for that, your words are heartless and empty. They aren't in a place to hear it. And no, just because you could do it doesn't mean everyone else can, you are you with your own thoughts, experiences and beliefs. They are not you. They do not have your thoughts, experiences and beliefs, and you don't have theirs. A little understanding goes so much further than preaching at people.
Love this. Thank you for saying it.
DeleteI’m in shock. Your “list” started out great but went down hill pretty quickly. This might be the worst advice I’ve ever read. I lost my very much alive 8 month old daughter in a tragic incident. I have had miscarriages too. While I won’t typically compare the two as they are not remotely the same, they both involved grief. It does not make you a person who wants to be a victim. It does not mean that you live life or receive good things. We have her little sister now. She’s a year old and my whole world. But I still grieve for my first child. Your advice here is not just wrong. It’s toxic. With a platform like this, you can do serious damage. If I had read something like this after my child’s death, it would have been enough to push me over the edge and kill myself.
ReplyDeleteI’m in shock. Your “list” started out great but went down hill pretty quickly. This might be the worst advice I’ve ever read. I lost my very much alive 8 month old daughter in a tragic incident. I have had miscarriages too. While I won’t typically compare the two as they are not remotely the same, they both involved grief. It does not make you a person who wants to be a victim. It does not mean that you live life or receive good things. We have her little sister now. She’s a year old and my whole world. But I still grieve for my first child. Your advice here is not just wrong. It’s toxic. With a platform like this, you can do serious damage. If I had read something like this after my child’s death, it would have been enough to push me over the edge and kill myself.
ReplyDeleteIt does not mean that you can’t* live life or receive good things.
DeleteThis is sanctimonious dribble, plain and simple. It shows a lack of biblical knowledge, a fundamental misunderstanding of God, and is dangerously lacking in empathy. God’s ways are mysterious, and this whole “Name it to claim it” mentality is dangerous and unbiblical. I pray you spend less time spouting off this hurtful and harmful idiocy and more time focusing on ways you can actually love and serve people who are hurting. Hint: Talk less, listen more.
ReplyDelete"Name it to claim it" as you call it is very biblical and dangerous only because it changes things. Jesus said, and I quote, "Have faith in God. For truly I say to you, whoever says to this mountain, 'Be removed and be thrown into the sea, and does not doubt in his heart, but believes that what he says will come to pass, he will have whatever he says. Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you will receive them, and you will have them."
DeleteI strongly encourage you to find a church where you can learn from older women and receive some serious discipleship training. What you've stated here is simply unbiblical. Miscarriage actually is in the Bible because it's existed ever since we fell dead in the garden. The world is groaning in sin, and we will continue to have trouble as long as we're here. Jesus didn't say we might have trouble if we don't have enough faith, He said in this world we WILL have trouble. The promise is that we'll also have peace that passes understanding and grace that is sufficient. Paul begged and begged for God to remove His thorn in the flesh, and there's no way Paul had less faith than we do. You would do well to look at God's answer to him. Job would be another good book to read. Job's friends said basically the same thing you've said here-to climb out of the pit-and God rebuked them. Please delete this and seek biblical counsel.
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DeleteI am attending a spirit-filled church where I learn from older men and women and have two mentors currently. One of my mentors read my blog and believes whole-heartedly with the Word of God and stands behind what I wrote. I understand it’s hard for a lot of people to actually BELIEVE what God says. But people that do, see the fruit of it. I’ve seen miracles. I’ve experienced miracles. There is MORE and I hope one day you will get to see that. By saying to me, “what you are stating here is completely unbiblical,” you are denying the word of God. I literally quoted scripture. I didn’t write this stuff, it’s God’s Word. I have yet to see anywhere that miscarriage normal and the will of God in the Bible. I read a book written by a Pastor that pointed this out to me in the first place. If I (and this Pastor) is mistaken, please note the scriptures because I would love to be enlightened. Ok, let’s just skip to the point - it’s just not. But all of this doesn't change the fact that it is the will of God for women to be fruitful and multiply. Of course we have trouble, we live in a fallen world. But faith moves the mountains that the enemy puts in our way. I will re-read Job as you suggested. But you have no leg to stand on that the scriptures that I referenced are not God’s will for people.
An important reminder about faith: An example of amazing faith from the bible is when Daniel, Shadrach, Meshack, and Abed-nego face the fiery furnace. They don't say "because of our faith we will not burn in the furnace." They say:
ReplyDelete17 If it be so, our God whom we serve is able to deliver us from the burning fiery furnace, and he will deliver us out of thine hand, O king.
18 BUT IF NOT, be it known unto thee, O king, that we will not serve thy gods, nor worship the golden image which thou hast set up.
That "but if not" is true faith. The fact we can trust our Savior even if we don't get what we want, even if we're not physically saved from something, even if we're martyrs, to trust him even if we can't bounce back from miscarriage or if we end up never being able to have a baby. I agree with you that we should try to think positively and not dwell on the fear and death because that will make things harder, but when we are afraid or when we do acknowledge that such pain can come again, it's not because of a lack of faith.A long quote I like is,
"Faith is believing that although we do not understand all things, He does. Faith is knowing that although our power is limited, His is not. Faith in Jesus Christ consists of complete reliance on Him. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego knew they could always rely on Him because they knew His plan, and they knew that He does not change. They knew, as we know, that mortality is not an accident of nature. It is a brief segment of the great plan of our loving Father in Heaven to make it possible for us, His sons and daughters, to achieve the same blessings He enjoys, if we are willing...
“By faith Moses … refused to be called the son of Pharaoh’s daughter;
“Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season;
“Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt. …
“By faith he forsook Egypt, not fearing the wrath of the king. …
“By faith they passed through the Red sea as by dry land. …
“By faith the walls of Jericho fell down.”
Others “through faith subdued kingdoms, … obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions,
“Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight.”
But in the midst of all those glorious outcomes hoped for and expected by the participants, there were always the but if nots:
“And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, … bonds and imprisonment:
“They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about … being destitute, afflicted, tormented; …
“God having provided some better things for them through their sufferings, for without sufferings they could not be made perfect.”
Our scriptures and our history are replete with accounts of God’s great men and women who believed that He would deliver them, but if not, they demonstrated that they would trust and be true.
He has the power, but it’s our test...We must have the same faith as Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego.
Our God will deliver us from ridicule and persecution, but if not. … Our God will deliver us from sickness and disease, but if not … . He will deliver us from loneliness, depression, or fear, but if not. … Our God will deliver us from threats, accusations, and insecurity, but if not. … He will deliver us from death or impairment of loved ones, but if not, … we will trust in the Lord.
Our God will see that we receive justice and fairness, but if not. … He will make sure that we are loved and recognized, but if not. … We will receive a perfect companion and righteous and obedient children, but if not, … we will have faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, knowing that if we do all we can do, we will, in His time and in His way, be delivered and receive all that He has. I so testify in the name of Jesus Christ, amen."
Also, I would never use my long quote on someone who has just gone through a miscarriage because the last thing anyone needs to be told is that they might not successfully have a baby. Everyone's grief is different, everyone receives revelation for themselves, and it's not our job to put words in God's mouth. The best thing you can say to someone who has suffered a miscarriage is nothing. Even if you've had your own, you don't know their pain and you DON'T know God's plan for them, which may be different from his plan for you. Just be there for them and be kind.
DeleteThank you for taking the time to reply in such detail. You do realize that S, M, & A are not God? Yes, they said that, but God is who we are following, not these men. While learning from these incredible men and women in the Bible is important, they are not who we follow. They do not have the final say. We have to ask, what does God say? God says to have faith, speak and move mountains, weeping may endure for a night but joy comes in the morning, etc. Of course everyone’s life plans are different, but you cannot deny what God says is His will for all of our lives. It clearly states in the Bible that it’s his plan that we be fruitful and multiply, that we are not barren. It doesn’t say, “Be fruitful and multiply unless I have selected you as one that is barren and must adopt to have children.” You, or anyone else for that matter, doesn’t have to live up to God’s best for their life. It’s a choice to believe for God’s best or live up to your own best expectations.
DeleteYour lack of empathy is absolutely disgusting. You have no right to tell women how to mourn a miscarriage and then hide behind the Bible while you set there with a healthy baby. Your journey is not the same as everyone else.
ReplyDeleteI'm not telling people how to mourn. Everyone mourns differently and at different rates. I am saying that if someone is falling into a pit of depression that they need to get help. I'm not "hiding behind the bible" I don't even know what you mean by that. I am referencing scripture to show that these are not just my opinions, it's God's truth in his word. You're right, everyone's journey is different. I didn't say that it was the same.
DeleteWhere did I place all the blame on the Mother?
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ReplyDeleteI am terribly sorry for your loss, it's not normal and devastating each time a baby leaves us too soon.
I have to say, it's discouraging to hear 'don't have a pity party'.
As someone who has a baby in heaven, I did indeed mourn for a long time, and cried a lot of tears. Because it's not in God's design for us to lose our babies. It's a result of the fall, and it's tragic. Jesus wept before he rose Lazarus from the dead, He knew what he was doing, but still it was awful and He knew it.
Please recognize that women grieve differently and saying 'don't have a pity party' doesn't sit well and can be more hurtful than helpful. Please consider this.
I do recognize that women grieve differently. How stupid to assume someone would think there is only one way to mourn. Having a pity party and mourning are completely different. It is important to recognize that mourning can go too far. So, do you think depression is healthy? Is it a good idea to let mourning go so far that someone is depressed? No. They need help. This is not my idea, however. I reached this conclusion by reading scripture. So, if you have a problem with people mourning to the point of depression, take your argument up with God.
DeleteThe biblical Hebrew noun for miscarriage is "nephel" and the verb is "shakal." Some examples would be Job 3:16 (used a few times in Job, which you'll see on your read through), 2 Kings 2:19-22, and Ecclesiastes 6:3. A good resource is Strong's Concordance if you want to do a word study. I'm glad you're willing to read Job. Your words in this post remind me a lot of Bildad in chapter 8. He believed God would bless Job if Job had enough faith, and God rebuked him and told him he'd spoken incorrectly.
ReplyDeleteAnother story that's important to look at in this context is David in 2 Samuel 12. He fasted and prayed for seven days that his son would live, but God didn't grant his request. Can we conclude that David just didn't have enough faith? I don't think so. God is not a genie. He doesn't always do what we want, and His ways are not our ways (Isaiah 55:8-9; Lamentations 3:38). Even if we don't understand why things happen until after we die (1 Corinthians 13:12), He is still working through the good and the bad (Romans 8:28). I'm afraid you're going to miss out on some beautiful times of dependency on Christ if you keep holding to the idea that faith equals an ability to make good things happen rather than what faith actually means, that we can have joy, hope, and peace through all circumstances (Hebrews 1:1, 36-38; Philippians 4:12).
That’s too bad that you view it that way. You are entitled to your opinions as well. You can’t “will yourself” a healthy pregnancy. Well, IDK maybe some can, but that’s not faith and that’s not God. Many hugs to you on losing your baby girl. I can’t imagine how painful that was and still is. It was not God’s will for your baby to die. It never was or will never be. God is never changing. Hoping and wishing isn’t faith. What I am writing about is faith in God’s will and promises. In order to have that, you have to have an established relationship with God, understanding and receiving his love, and reading and grasping the authority he gives to believers. This isn’t some simple task. You can’t take a crash course on it, you can’t buy it, and you can’t “hope” it will work out. But you can seek God, and he will come close to you. You can read the Bible and get knowledge and understanding. The more you seek him, the more you will receive his love and his promises.
ReplyDeleteSince you have yet to respond to my question, I will continue with your other misunderstandings. It is God’s will for women to have healthy pregnancies and babies. It is not God’s will for women to be barren or to have miscarriages, still born babies, or for babies or kids to die before living a long life. The Word of God says the devil seeks to steal, kill, and destroy in any ways he can. This includes sickness, disease, accidents, and taking lives. So when a women is barren, that is the work of the devil, not God. When a child dies in a tragic accident, that is the work of the devil, that is not God needing another “angel.” Well-meaning people, Christians included, say and even believe that lives end prematurely because it’s God’s will, and that somehow brings comfort and makes it a little bit better. But it’s simply not fact as the Word of God is concerned. So, to close a long-winded answer to your concern, faith does change things. You don’t have to “believe God harder,” as you mentioned, the way to look at it instead, is simply living out a life of faith in a God so big and loving and wonderful. He CAN do immeasurably more than we can ask or imagine by the power that is at work inside of us! (Eph. 3:20) Faith won’t work for a non-believer. Faith won’t even work for a surface Christian. But faith does work for those who believe in it wholeheartedly.
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